FP as Group + RC as Reference Distribution

[Dragan]

Hi,
I need to populate a lot of apartments with various furniture and I decide to do mostly with FP and RC.
My intention for this topic is to place various carpets from FP presets on Reference positions generated by RC.

1. RC setup is simple: Triangle segment distributed based RC parameters.
2. Carpets are made with a Plane and FP preset.
3. I make a Group (Plane+FP) for every individual carpet model
4. I was hoping that New FP with Group as Geometry will do the job but unfortunately, that didn`t work 

Any idea of how this could work?
Thank you.
Dragan

EDIT:

Solved without grouping:
Planes with different Mat ID as RC input Segments.
FPs with custom Surf.Mat.ID.

Still remains question: It seems that Groups combined from mesh+FP will not work in another FP object?



 

[iToo]

Hi, groups doesn't work because each object in the group is handled as a separated scattered item, with their own random transforms, etc.
Groups were included to solve some specific cases, but doesn't work in the same way than Max groups.

Futhermore, with nested Forests, the inner object is converted to a mesh (nested instancing is not supported). So, in this case it would be a performance hit to convert each carpet to a whole mesh.

Your solution without groups is better, because instancing is preserved for the carpets.

[Dragan]

Thank you for your reply.
Best Regards.
Dragan

[Dragan]

Hm, I have another Issue (I send the file at helpdesk)

My setup is working as expected except for one issue:
Is there a way to force FP objects Distributed via Reference to be placed as a Sequence or to force each object to appear at least one time.
I try to Normalize Probability, change Random Seed in General tab... no help...

Workflow:

- Each Plane have individual MAT ID (1-23)
- Each FP_RUG have individual Surf.Mat.ID and `FP_RUG PLANES`as Surface
- Suffix number in the name corresponding to Mat ID for simple tracking/control

- Set reference position (triangles) via `RC REFERENCE` (Macro will be used for various setup in the Project). 
- Place rug planes on triangles positions generated by RC with Forest `FP_RUG PLANES`(Distribution/Reference> `RC REFERENCE`)
 

[Dragan]

Never mind... I`ll go with Sorted Spline IDs... but still the question remains:

Is there a way to force FP objects Distributed via Reference to be placed as a Sequence?

[Paul Roberts]

Hi,

I'm afraid at present it isn't possible to create sequence in Reference mode. Splines should solve it for you. I'll add it as a suggestion to our wish list though.

Many thanks,

Paul

[Dragan]

Thank you.
Also, we need MatID filter, since Surf.Mat.Id is disabled in Refernce mode:
https://forum.itoosoft.com/forest-pro-(*)/mat-ids-together-with-reference-geometry-in-fp/msg22628/#msg22628

So, It will be great if Surf.Mat.ID can be Active and if we could set multiple Surf.Mat.ID+Pick for the individual ID! (I know, we can select multiple ID comma separated but Pick model is for whole `ID group`)