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QK1362

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Facade with "special zones"
« on: January 30, 2020, 09:40:45 AM »
Hello I sometimes working in an architectural competion and have to develop an create facades with special zones where I have to create openings.

my current workflow:

I create a grid based spline where I evenly clone the pillars and set in between for the default the window model than colapse the whole Railclone model to an editable poly and delete the special zones to create an other RC based Facade.

I do this because i couldnt get my head around how to make, for example, shorter splines without blow up the vertical axis of the grid based pillars.

It works so far fine for me but I guess there is a smarter and even faster way to have a diffrent kind of facade in the default facade.

please help me :-)

Thanks in advance


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Re: Facade with "special zones"
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2020, 10:56:51 AM »
So i figured out with the help of the 10 Second Tips how to make my life a little bit easier, but i can't figure out how to cut out some clean geometry which is not parall to the 3d Max grid. Can someone help please.... =)

also i have problems with uneven numbers for my facade. It doesnt seem that it divides it correctly so that my axis from the bottom which are "heavy" columns aligns with the lighter top part of the facade.

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Re: Facade with "special zones"
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2020, 11:03:43 AM »
I don't have a RailClone workflow for cutting out facades. I would convert to EP and manually finish the model as You are doing already.

Regarding uneven numbers for facade. Please explain more or even better attach sample file.
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Re: Facade with "special zones"
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2020, 12:06:06 PM »
the bigger grid on level 00 and level 01 is 260cm for the columns and on the upper floors the facade grid is 130cm:


https://www.file-upload.net/download-13883923/2020-01-31_Railclone_Forum_001.max.html

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Re: Facade with "special zones"
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2020, 01:01:42 PM »
...and the cut problem:

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Re: Facade with "special zones"
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2020, 01:12:21 PM »
This is another case where "even/odd" distribution in Evenly mode would help. That is not yet implemented.
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Re: Facade with "special zones"
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2020, 03:49:57 PM »
ok thanks, and what about the "clipping area" -> "Exclude" ?

it seems that even if the spline is aligned parallel it cuts "wrong"

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Re: Facade with "special zones"
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2020, 04:01:12 PM »
I did not see a problem in Your attached file:
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Re: Facade with "special zones"
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2020, 05:01:34 PM »
yes becaus its paralell to the 3D Max grid but if you set the base splines into an diffrent angle you cant cut out a straight rectangle :-(

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Re: Facade with "special zones"
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2020, 05:54:00 PM »
Yes, that is how clipping in RC4. Just be aware of it and its limitations.
Sorry I could not be more useful for You.
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Re: Facade with "special zones"
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2020, 06:14:10 PM »
you helped me alot! thanks mate!

and now i hope that this will be implemented soon. That would be very very important!:

"This is another case where "even/odd" distribution in Evenly mode would help. That is not yet implemented."

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Re: Facade with "special zones"
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2020, 02:14:04 PM »
is there an easier way than constantly repeat the upper levels in the two sequence operators shown in the screenshot?

you can find the file in the link below:

https://www.file-upload.net/download-13890449/RC_Elements_Facade_Final_.max.html

thanks in advance!
« Last Edit: February 05, 2020, 02:30:05 PM by QK1362 »

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Re: Facade with "special zones"
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2020, 03:24:46 PM »
Hi
If I understood the question correctly You want to do this:



I used two sequences and selector with exported index. Index is arithmetic expression highlighted in Red.
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Re: Facade with "special zones"
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2020, 03:50:07 PM »
yes ...thats correct. maybe you could explain me the whole thing a bit more.

 i'm not very deep into this parametric stuff :-/

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Re: Facade with "special zones"
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2020, 04:25:17 PM »
Sure

I have split "Start Part" and "repeating part" to two Sequences.

Then we need to tell RailClone to use starting part only once,- first floor.

So we plug both sequences- start, and repeating to Selector Node. And tell it to use FirstFloor only once,- only on first floor.
This is done with arithmetic Equation which is wired to Index input.

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return if(segmentYCounter==1,1,2);
That is pretty much it. If You want some step explained in more details, please spicy which.

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