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Title: Parametric rail.. again
Post by: Dragan on May 17, 2018, 02:41:14 PM
Hi
If anyone can help me with this, please...
I have to set up a numerous rails with different setups around few buildings.

I just need good start position. I`m trying for past 6 hours to solve all parameters that are required :( ...
I don`t know if image explains the problem but I need to setup parameters for:
- variable height,
- variable evenly divisions,
- variable position of sphere group set (two spheres)  from the top of the rail
- variable size of the glass panel...

The Biggest problem are combined Evenly distribution for spheres&poles (cant see how to place sphere section between Evenly distributed poles)  and of course corners... 

I know the RailClone is the best tool for this type of problem.. just  :o ...

Thank you for any help.

Best Regards
Title: Re: Parametric rail.. again
Post by: Rokas on May 17, 2018, 02:51:57 PM
You added segments in max file, that's great. Could You please also compose a form and preliminary configuration for it. I am not sure about some details of Your sketch.
Title: Re: Parametric rail.. again
Post by: Dragan on May 17, 2018, 04:35:36 PM
eg:

the `green evenly pole` is only on Evenly position, not on the Start/End/Corners...
the `wire spline` should bend on the Start/End and OUTSIDE corners (this is my biggest issue), on the inter corner should just bevel...




Title: Re: Parametric rail.. again
Post by: Rokas on May 18, 2018, 11:21:03 AM
Can You please attach what You already have, so I don't need to redo everything from scratch?

(https://forum.itoosoft.com/railclone-pro-(*)/parametric-rail-again/?action=dlattach;attach=10973;image)
Title: Re: Parametric rail.. again
Post by: Dragan on May 18, 2018, 11:38:13 AM
ah... this is from another CAD..
I do not use MAX as my primary modeling tool... that is why I bought RC and FP so I can create complex stuff with my imported segments

My primary problem is how to place a new segments between Evenly distributed segments...
And second is how to `break`  corner position and place the `bend wire segments`

.. and please do not waste too much time on my problem, you already been very helpful on my "Compose  Pattern" problem....  I'm going to crack it somehow...  ;)
Title: Re: Parametric rail.. again
Post by: Rokas on May 18, 2018, 11:44:04 AM
please attach that cad.
Title: Re: Parametric rail.. again
Post by: Dragan on May 18, 2018, 12:13:19 PM
Here is my first RC attempt..


Since I`m still learning but through work I do not have time for more detailed reading of manual or tutorials

I still have some issues with Compose and Segment operators so this RC generator is full or single L1S   

... so... I set it on the side for a few hours to clear my mind and I will probably start all over again  with the segments from the first post..

Title: Re: Parametric rail.. again
Post by: Rokas on May 18, 2018, 01:07:25 PM
I would still want to get Your cad. I would use that to prepare geometry for RC.
Title: Re: Parametric rail.. again
Post by: Dragan on May 18, 2018, 01:31:08 PM
Hahaha... you are very persistent..
It is IronCAD so I will have to export geometry to dfx/3ds format to import ito 3DSMAX... but I do not have anything more then this segment from the images. I just make this part to show dimensions...

Now I have to call my wife to start  my home computer, go to Teamviewer export CAD file..  ;D ;D ;D whole bunch of procedures just for peace of fence  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   


 
Title: Re: Parametric rail.. again
Post by: Dragan on May 18, 2018, 01:44:24 PM
I would still want to get Your cad. I would use that to prepare geometry for RC.

Ahhh... you want to slice/cut my geometry for new segments....
So that means I need new approach :D... so much L1S is not good? :D
 
Title: Re: Parametric rail.. again
Post by: Rokas on May 18, 2018, 02:08:06 PM
I would still want to get Your cad. I would use that to prepare geometry for RC.

Ahhh... you want to slice/cut my geometry for new segments....
So that means I need new approach :D... so much L1S is not good? :D
 

L1S is good approach. You have too many L1S generators to handle.
Title: Re: Parametric rail.. again
Post by: Dragan on May 18, 2018, 02:20:08 PM
Yes I know... I wanted to do as much as parametric... to change almost every part of the Railway setup..

Here is the CAD for segments... I get it now... You are going to slice/cut it all over...

Thank You
Best regards
Title: Re: Parametric rail.. again
Post by: Dragan on May 18, 2018, 02:29:36 PM
Just one more thing. I will need option on/off for Glass panels (so I assume this is one/two horizontal cuts more?)...

Thank You again for Your unselfish support!

Best Regards
Dragan
Title: Re: Parametric rail.. again
Post by: Rokas on May 18, 2018, 02:32:45 PM
I will tackle this on Monday. If You have any progress Yourself please share.
Title: Re: Parametric rail.. again
Post by: Dragan on May 18, 2018, 07:46:29 PM
Thank You... Please don`t do anything before because I just got request for more variations  ::) :o :(
I`ll make my new attempt with less generators and then we can see about any potential issues.

Best Regards
Title: Re: Parametric rail.. again
Post by: Dragan on May 19, 2018, 09:24:52 AM
Hi
I got new setup request from the client for the Fence rail.

Here is my initial generator. Segment are vertically sliced out of the initial setup.
It will probably expand to parametric variations for the master height and size of the segments `inside` but for now this is a good start position.

I have few issues marked as red notes. So I appreciate if anyone have time to look and make some comments.

Best Regards
Dragan
 
Title: Re: Parametric rail.. again
Post by: Dragan on May 21, 2018, 04:16:59 PM
Hi,
I still have problem how to achieve for each spline segment to have odd or even number of division adapted to distance set at Evenly Distance mode.
I took a look into manual and Conditional operator regarding segment X counting but could not crack any solution  :(.
I do not know if my idea is make any sense but I hope it is possible. If not, there is new e.r.

Best Regards
Dragan
 
Title: Re: Parametric rail.. again
Post by: Rokas on May 21, 2018, 04:20:05 PM
I am examining Your scene right now. Do not have a solution Yet though.
Title: Re: Parametric rail.. again
Post by: Dragan on May 23, 2018, 07:06:15 AM
I'm close to finish the project, and there are only fences left. There seems to be no simple solution for an odd/even Evenly division on the Spline segment so I guess I will set various Mat ID to the Spline and target the Evenly Distance by Mat ID.
It is not to much trouble since this is only one house (for now) but I would like to see it as a new option (img)

Best Regards
Dragan
Title: Re: Parametric rail.. again
Post by: Rokas on May 23, 2018, 07:55:06 AM
I will add this suggestion to our todo list.
Thank You for this suggestion.
Title: Re: Parametric rail.. again
Post by: Dragan on May 28, 2018, 09:42:30 AM
For the second project in a row, I have a need for even/odd distribution with Evenly mode...
Is it possible to see this option in near future?
Thank You.


Best Regards
Dragan