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Some grievances with RC Pro v2.03

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iToo:

--- Quote ---Regarding the compose node, I really hope you ad support for groups, as this would solve a whole lot of other problems in one go, specifically the issue of wanting to add light to ones cloned segments.
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Unfortunately, although we add the support for groups, there are certain limitations to use non-geometrical objects (as lights). These objects are not instanciable in the render engines.


--- Quote ---That being said; reading your explanation of the compose node, does this not do exactly what the sequence node does, just lacking the extra controls?
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You are right: used in the "Default" slot, both operatores work very similar. Instead, there is a great difference used as Corner or Evenly. The Compose operator always arranges all the single Segments, while Sequence applies only one. Basically the Compose operator was designed to build complex pieces at Corners/Evenly.


--- Quote ---I would also like to know your thoughts on "best practice" for controlling mapping coordinates on RC objects. So far, I can only get the tiled mapping from the base segment, so if I'm cutting my models up into thin slices as it seems you guys like to do (judging from your presets and examples, textures look pretty bad.
With group support, we can hopefully add a uv modifier onto several objects and get them to retain the mapping on the built model. Have you guys considered adding a uv node to let us add mapping inside the style editor onto a compose or sequence node? With an option to randomly flip, rotate 90 cw & ccw etc.?

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This feature already exists as Segment->Deform->UV Mapping. It lets you to apply a continuous mapping along the full RC object. You can find a howto guide here.

In the next days we will release an new RailClone tutorial, exposing this and other advanced features.

iToo:

--- Quote ---There is one thing I have been wondering about. The 2d array......could one in the future control it with 4 splines]
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Yes, we have plans to include other types of Generators, probably supporting 4 splines. Anyway, this will take some time, since Generators are the most complex part of RailClone.

Asplan Viak:
Great replies here guys. You seem to have the whole "support and feedback" thing down  ;D

Please feel free to ignore my question regarding uvs......another one of my brain farts.

I'm sorry to hear this regarding lights, but could you maybe use some other type of object so we could manually run the clone and align function to get our lights aligned?
Have you guys discussed this with the Chaos guys (I only care about vray for rendering as you can see  ;) )? I'm curious if maybe they could cooperate with you guys to make this work, as it is pretty essential to get the lights distributed on larger models.

iToo:

--- Quote ---I'm sorry to hear this regarding lights, but could you maybe use some other type of object so we could manually run the clone and align function to get our lights aligned?
Have you guys discussed this with the Chaos guys (I only care about vray for rendering as you can see  ;) )? I'm curious if maybe they could cooperate with you guys to make this work, as it is pretty essential to get the lights distributed on larger models.
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We have a couple of ideas that would work. As instance, using RailClone Tools to instanciate the lights. This requires a small modification in the plugin, because currently it's not possible to use a non-gometric object as Segment, but hopefully it will be added for the next update.

When possible, we prefer to offer solutions that work both in VRay and Mental Ray. We have plans to include additional render engines as well, in the same line as Forest.

Paul Roberts:

--- Quote from: Asplan Viak on June 17, 2013, 01:17:19 PM ---Could you maybe use some other type of object so we could manually run the clone and align function to get our lights aligned?

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To a certain extent this is possible now by instanciating the RailClone geometry using Railclone Tools then using Clone and Align as you describe to create lights on the appropriate segments . There's more information about RailClone Tools here - http://www.itoosoft.com/railclone/reference/tools.php . This is the technique I've been using until now but obviously it'll much easier when it's supported natively.

Thanks,

Paul

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