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Title: Windows_inner cross
Post by: Dragan on November 22, 2018, 08:30:28 AM
Hi!
I`ve been struggling for hours now to make this simple generator to work.

My goal is to place simple cross divisions with second generator.
X/Y evenly should be driven by Distance for better control.

I started by dividing `master` X evenly  Distance by 2 to get double divisions and then to remove X Evenly Segments witch overlap with the `master` Divisions.

1. My first and last evenly segment is not centered. I try padding, translating, adding Null segments to sides/corners.... nothing seams to help

2. How to remove every second Segment. I try Sequence with Null segment, Conditional with X counter set to Multiple of 2.... nothing seams to help

Any great idea? Thx.

3dsMax 2015/RC 3.2

Dragan

Title: Re: Windows_inner cross
Post by: Rokas on November 22, 2018, 09:45:46 AM
Your start/end segments width are different from default:
(https://i.imgur.com/BG2rRDQ.png)

Regarding skipping multiple of 2 evenly segments- You will have to find another way.
In example:
(https://i.imgur.com/6DEK6YG.png)
Title: Re: Windows_inner cross
Post by: Dragan on November 22, 2018, 10:25:34 AM
Rokas, thank you for quick reply.

Yes, I now my start/end segment are 11cm against X Evenly witch are 14cm and I tried to compensate that by adding Null segments with X size set to 14cm to Start/End but that had no effect on Evenly distribution at all.

So, as I think I understand You are suggesting a different approach making cross divisions with Default segments?
hm... that will give me more issues in future.
The solution based on X evenly will be more appropriate since I`m planing to use it as part of a lot complex "Master Generator".

Dragan


Title: Re: Windows_inner cross
Post by: Dragan on November 22, 2018, 11:14:21 AM
 :o

How can I force RC to make EVEN default segments between Evenly  if Start/End and Evenly segment are different in SIZE?
So far, I have no luck in testing using Adaptive and Adjusting to end in any combination. First/Last space is always different compare to rest of Evenly size.


Title: Re: Windows_inner cross
Post by: Rokas on November 22, 2018, 11:27:39 AM
You can create separate generator with Start/End padding:
(https://i.imgur.com/mW12orX.png)
Title: Re: Windows_inner cross
Post by: Dragan on November 22, 2018, 11:46:20 AM
Yes, with L1S is simple but I have to use A2S^Clipping Area to add this generator in a lot bigger/complicated style.
I guess I`ll have to do some math to compensate this Start/End gaps..



 
Title: Re: Windows_inner cross
Post by: Dragan on November 22, 2018, 12:41:01 PM
 :D :D :D

You guys are already done the math with A2S with intersect macro!!!!
Works great!!!
Just added Sequence for X evenly and do some adjustment to B/T/L/R  X&Y Evenly to avoid overlaps.
I`ll share when sort some parameters...

One again, tnx for GREAT TOOL!!!!


Dragan
Title: Re: Windows_inner cross
Post by: Dragan on November 22, 2018, 02:41:12 PM
 :( :( :( :(
NOPE!!!
Still same issue with EVENLY!!
 
Please, try to make a simple test with just a box 10x10x10.
A2S generator with Clipping area
Connect the box_segment on every slot (side, corners, top, bottom and X EVENLY).
Now try to set up scenario for all Evenly (Empty) space to be equal size (I tried everything: Distance, Counter, Adaptive, Adjustment to 0/50/100....)
In witch scenario RC will consider Left/Right in Evenly calculation?

I did not test L1S jet..

It will be logical to expect that ALL evenly distance are the same (including first, last and middle ones)
tnx

Dragan
Title: Re: Windows_inner cross
Post by: Rokas on November 23, 2018, 08:09:10 AM
I think You have bad expectations what evenly does. It divides spline to even segments and then creates segments in those positions. It does not create even width empty spaces between involved elements.
If You are not using clipping splines then You can calculate space width with arithmetic expression. In case of clipping spline- I have not found a workaround yet.
Title: Re: Windows_inner cross
Post by: Dragan on November 23, 2018, 08:16:08 AM
Thank you Rokas, I understand.
So, maybe to place this as enhancement request?

Best Regards
Dragan
Title: Re: Windows_inner cross
Post by: Dragan on November 23, 2018, 09:53:14 AM
In case of clipping spline- I have not found a workaround yet.

Rokas, do you think that workaround  is possible at all? I guess RC4 will be based on same algorithm for Evenly distribution getting only spline for calculation. So, this `problem` will occur in the future and some kind of workaround will be quite handy.  (it would be great to pop up by the end of the day ;D :D :D :D)

Best Regards
Dragan